P-Mate - Giving girls the ability to pee standing up. [Archive]

dontpanic

31st August 2002, 09:29 PM

although peeing while standing up would be nice, i think the real dream of equality would come true if the p-mate provides enough control and mobility to write my name in fresh snow. that's what i have been really jealous of all these years....i mean...technically, if i am squatting over a toilet, i am still standing, but if i try to write my name with my pee, i will surely get some dribble on my leg. if the p-mate can promise this sort of equality, then it may very well be revolutionary!!

imported_shiola

2nd September 2002, 09:13 AM

dontpanic - so writing your name in snow is THE ultimate sign of equality? I can understand that. It is a pleasure and a priviledge to be able to do that. Luckily I haven't got a really long name.

What if the P-Mate came with a plastic tube attachment on the end of the funnel so you just have to swing it to write your name? The beauty with the P-Mate is that you could have a simple stop cock for when you're doing punctuation and/or moving onto a seperate word. It's very hard for a man to cut off mid-flow and then begin again later. That's why you only get joined up wiritng in the snow. I think the stop cock would give you an unfair edge over the males.

dontpanic - I've included your comments on the P-Mate link of the week page, hope that's OK with you because I think you've raised an important point with regards to 'Public Urination Equal Rights'.

dontpanic

7th September 2002, 01:53 AM

WOW! I never thought of having additional gadgets for ease of operation....that would be remarkable. Unfortunately, we women might encounter a new problem with such gadgets. As we would definitely be novices at this, the situation could arise in which we had the "stop cock" engaged and were also unable to cut off mid-flow (especially after a night of heavy drinking when the desire to pee-write is uncontrollable). This could create quite a mess as there might be a back up of urine. Additional training materials would have to be included with the product!

shiola --- thank you for including my comments on the link of the week page. A public debate on urination equal rights is long overdue!

Anonymous

15th November 2002, 06:48 PM

Who the hell needs help.
I've been manouvering my pee no problem without any paper gadget.
Just stand up, rock your hips back, spread your inner lips and push real sharply. The flow will run will and when you feel nearly empty, push sharp again. You'll dribble maybe a little but not as much as a guy (guy's willies are longer than our wee pipes).
If you're not confident, any you feel you will end up with wee flowing down your leg, try first in theshower or the bath until you get the hang of it it's not ahrd to master.
If you have a fuller figure like me, spread your legs a little as you need a gap in your thighs to let the pee flow.

Check out restrooms.org if your real dumb.

Remember you vagina is yours.

imported_shiola

20th November 2002, 04:02 PM

Lorna - your site, www.restrooms.org, is great, looks like P-Mate is just scratching the surface of a massive issue. I never realised!

We found this site as well - http://www.worldtoilet.org - which has a forum plus a World Toilet Summit!

Anonymous

31st December 2002, 10:48 PM

I can easily write my name in the snow with my piss, without any keugel exercises and fancy labia manipulation...

My name is Dot ;-)

imported_shiola

1st January 2003, 02:24 AM

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Anonymous

22nd February 2003, 06:21 PM

I can easily write my name in the snow with my piss, without any keugel exercises and fancy labia manipulation...

My name is Dot ;-)

Me too Dot!!

I just whip out my cock and piss away.

Sara

20th March 2003, 01:54 AM

I can easily write my name in the snow with my piss, without any keugel exercises and fancy labia manipulation...

My name is Sara ;-) :D where did you lern to do it?

Sara

20th March 2003, 01:57 AM

dontpanic

14th August 2003, 03:22 AM

a year has passed since the original topic was started, and it is so good to see that people are still interested in seeing that girls gain the ability to pee standing up. what an amazing world!

imported_shiola

15th August 2003, 11:00 AM

Important issues are timeless. I'd argue that this is the oldest argument of all time between the sexes - maybe pissing standing-up was the evolutional step that turned single sex organisms into the two sexed animals we have today?

Did cavemen go out to hunt and cavewomen stay in to look after the young?

No. Cavewomen stayed in because they couldn't urinate outside but Cavemen could. This explans why women can do everything men can do except that one thing, but now, with the advent of P-Mate, the whole of Human Evolutionary history is being turned on it's head.

Exciting times.

dontpanic

15th August 2003, 09:13 PM

exciting times indeed!

while i don't argue with your general view, i still maintain that the technical ability to write one's name in the snow has produced a more profound difference between the sexes.

see, the cavewoman actually could pee outside. but she couldn't control her piss enough to write legibly. the caveman went out to hunt because he could mark his territory with something more prolific than simply the smell of his urine. he could write his name. it is the prehistoric equivalent of placing a flag on the shores of a new land and claiming it for one's own.

caveman could do that. cavewoman couldn't. caveman has the power and cavewoman is relegated to the cave.

i do agree, however, that regardless of which theory is correct --- the p-mate changes everything!

imported_shiola

16th August 2003, 06:01 PM

You know what? I thought that theory was crazy, but dontpanic, I think you've inadvertantly opened the theory up to include the development of language.

For a caveman to write his name he has to a) have a name and b) have a written language inorder to write his name. So cavemen probably started by pissing little patterns to identify which tribe owned that particular plot of land. These patterns then developed into names and then extra meanings, eg' This is Kevin's Land - Kevin is big and hard'.

With more complicated patterns (or words), the more meaning could have been communicated - therefore cavemen pissing in the snow actually invented language, and later on, civilisation.

This can be proved by the fact that cavewomen stayed inside - they couldn't write with their labia liquid.

I'd argue the P-Mate is a more important invention than the wheel, who disagree's?

dontpanic

17th August 2003, 01:21 AM

you are quite right! p-mate has the potential to alter the future of civilzation in ways that the wheel no longer can.

the discovery of this new theory of language explains so much to me. for instance, let us assume that the caveman did, in fact, develop language by pissing in the snow or the dirt or whatever. when the environment changed (snow melted, new snow fell, wind blew the dirt) the caveman would have to be prepared to write his statement of ownership and superiority again. therefore, his "writing instrument" would always have to be at the ready. otherwise, he might lose parts of his territory to other cavemen who could whip it out faster. the gravity of such a scenario would have been passed from father to son through the ages. that would explain why men today are always grabbing their crotches. they are simply checking to make sure that they are always at the ready in case some other man tries to piss on their homes, their girlfriends, their cars, etc.

it just makes perfect sense. thanks again, p-mate!

imported_shiola

17th August 2003, 08:26 PM

This might also explain the reason why men drink alot more than women and have an almost unquenchable thirst for beer. Inorder to piss your name in snow you need to be needing to go for a piss in the first place. Drinking lots of beer makes you want to piss more, and once that first load goes, there's no stopping it.

I for one, as a male, can tell you that when I'm pissing in a pub after a few jars I'm not pissing in a straight line. I'm weaving patterns on the bowl, playing with that blue bit of soap stuff and moving cigarette butts up and down the gulley.

Having a Jimmy Riddle outside, hands free, eyes shut, and feeling the breeze blowing through the undercarriage is a small piece of Paradise...especially if you have a 'How High Can You Go' competition aswell.

dontpanic

18th August 2003, 12:08 AM

Based on this new twist to the theory, since I am a female who loves the beer (see my website: www.geocities.com/ok_shamrock/index.html ) the invention of the p-mate has me poised to take over the world. And I won't even need to scratch my crotch to do it.

What an amazing time we live in!

Anonymous

30th October 2003, 04:22 PM

I just found this forum under the P mate and I think society controlled what
we do as far as spending our money , raising our kids, and bathroom
habits. Who the hell told us how to pee in the first place? I'd like to kick that
control freak. Society has to keep out of our lives, pee however you feel
comfortable....practice snow writing but not were I walk...ewww!
Maybe women were taught to pee that way because we were deemed frail
and unapt to do it any other way. I was a driver and there came a time
where there was no bathroom and rather pee my pants i went to the nearest
tree and went not exposing myself or anything. I've been to another forum
where guys were saying it's too much of an effort to sit on the bowl.....yeah
figures, but I say however you are comfy with it...do it..

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19th December 2003, 03:25 PM

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19th December 2003, 03:27 PM

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Anonymous

1st February 2004, 06:47 AM

This certainly is a very interesting topic...

I (a guy) was at a friends with 4 girls present. We watched The Full Monty and one of the girls commented on how absurd the scene was where the woman pees at the mens urinals. I of course having seen this site and others continued to explain how p-mate was available and that girls could actually pee standing up anyway. (www.restrooms.org Woman’s Guide on How to Pee Standing)

There was stunned silence and a barrage of questions by all 4 girls that this was not possible and that I should go back to text books to see the difference between boys and girls things. Obviously not being able to share first-hand experience I directed them to the internet.

My thoughts were that if women can pee standing, then how come they've never caught on and how many girls in the UK actually know about this... is it a non-UK thing?

Come on girls we all need to know...

imported_shiola

1st February 2004, 08:14 PM

Get your friends to try it out. Obviously it's possible, it's the next great feminist revolution.

Anonymous

5th February 2004, 04:42 AM

Get your friends to try it out. Obviously it's possible, it's the next great feminist revolution.

Hmm... not quite sure that it is the next great feminist revolution but here is something new I learned...

My friends cousin, Debbie from Australia was visiting (UK) and upon discussions told be that back in the great land of Aus, most girls work out how to pee standing. She said although its not talked about, nearly all girls will go this way when the toilets down the pub have become uncompromisingly disgusting (prob about 9pm no doubt... lol)

Anyway she told me that for a friends birthday, they bought her a Shenis, kinda like a p-mate, but well... lets just say it made me smile when i found it on the net...

(But, she did tell me it came in useful when her mate had to submit a urine sample. Better than pissing all over your hands... oh what us guys don't know!)

dontpanic

9th February 2004, 02:42 AM

yeah, i think most girls can pee standing up, but the real revolution involves the controlability of said urine. i mean, girls are quite enterprising when we need to do our business, but the p-mate (and your friend's shenis) would make the business a little easier to perform --- especially if every toilet at the bar has some girls puke all over it because she can't hold her liquor.

imported_shiola

9th February 2004, 02:56 AM

dontpanic - nice to see you back in the mix.

I wonder if girls do not do this, not because they can't but because it maybe seen as unfeminine? If you saw another girl having a Jimmy Riddle whilst standing up with bow legs, would you think less of her?

Obviously, all us guys would love it but do other girls think it unfeminine when another girl drains the lizard whilst unseated?

dontpanic

9th February 2004, 03:18 AM

i don't think it is unfeminine and i doubt that many other girls do, either. hell, depending on the condition of the toilet seat and the availability of seat covers, i doubt too many actually do sit when at a public toilet. (aside thought....perhaps that is the reason the toilets are in that condition in the first place?). but i do think it would freak many of us out if we actually witnessed another girl standing, facing the toilet while the business was being done. not me, of course, as your website has provided me with a very worldly education in just what humankind can accomplish.

and thanks...it is good to be back in the mix.

Anonymous

13th February 2004, 04:09 AM

The issue of girls peeing standing I think is only unfeminine if society deems it that way and I think it probably does but maybe that is a guy thing...

Ok basically men love the fact that we can whip it out and take a slash, wherever and whenever the urge takes us. Women should simply not be allowed this privilege, it's like the last thing we have...

If a girl was to rock up at the urinals next to a guy, do whatever they do and pee articulately in the same manner she would either be taken as a) A man, b) A transexual or c) not normal. In either case, since most guys (i think i'm right in saying) have absolutely no idea (along with most girls probably) about this phenomenon that they would surely be properly scared or at least a bit shaken.

Thus, I reckon guys would deem it unfeminine as 'just not right'... I am sure that back in way back when, women simply went this way, it seems far easier. For some reason men thought it was so cool that only they should go this way and society being male dominated it became the norm...

I am certain that in the future there will be womens urinals, the ques can tell us that, but until society and guys in particular learn that this is possible and quite normal, it will be deemed 'unfeminine', for the want of a better word.

imported_shiola

8th March 2004, 02:37 AM

Check out this madness - http://www.mapsu.org

dontpanic

15th March 2004, 01:12 AM

well, it is certainly a little funny, yet if this thing caught on, it could unravel the fabric of years of urination liberation that so many women have fought so hard to see come about. i say nay to this idea. besides, men spend so long on the john when they go in there to float logs that if they sat down to pee too, they'd be in the bathroom all the time.

imported_shiola

15th March 2004, 03:35 AM

Ladies, you can practise your new found freedom right here - http://195.92.224.73/j20/content/host.asp

Anonymous

11th July 2004, 10:52 PM

Couldn't you just strattle the toilet and pee from above it.... like standing over it

Anonymous

11th July 2004, 10:56 PM

that would solve the problem of germs from public bathrooms

dontpanic

12th July 2004, 01:54 PM

c'mon... that's just not the same.

Anonymous

6th August 2004, 07:33 PM

Hi. I know this is a really old topic, but I just stumbled across this website. I have always
wanted to pee standing up and it always really bothered me that girls couldn't (or so I
thought). I thought maybe I was weird, or even worse, sick and fucked up for wanting to
do this, but I'm relieved to find out I am not alone! And I'm even happier to learn that it
is actually possible.

I clicked on the link that supposedly went to a guide for how to pee standing up, but the
guide is no longer there, the website just sells a device to allow females to pee standing
up. While would be good, real equality can only be achieved by being able to pee without
the need of a device. That's what I really want to do. But I haven't been able to find a
detailed guide on how to do this. I've found a few simple guides, but I'm still a bit unsure.

I've only tried a few times, and so far I'm not very good at it. Do any girls here have any
tips or know where I can find more information on the subject? I feel kinda weird asking,
but I really want to know.

I think that the idea that males urinate standing up and females urinate sitting down or
squatting is just another example of stupid male domination in our society. Somewhere I
read that in some cultures it's actually the opposite, girls stand and boys squat.

Alien Stick

24th December 2004, 07:16 AM

i can stop my unrine mid flow (i hear those kuegal excersises help with prematue ejaculation) so yeah, i can write me name block style..

you know what i have always wanted to do tho?i've wanted to pee in weather thats so cold my urine freezes before it hits the ground but i just watched a mythbusters on that one and they busted the myth...DAMN!

BlackSunshineAZ

24th December 2004, 07:54 AM

I clicked on the link that supposedly went to a guide for how to pee standing up, but the guide is no longer there, the website just sells a device to allow females to pee standing up. While would be good, real equality can only be achieved by being able to pee without the need of a device. That's what I really want to do. But I haven't been able to find a
detailed guide on how to do this. I've found a few simple guides, but I'm still a bit unsure.

I used to visit that site because the topic intrigues me. The owner removed the forum some time ago because it would go months at a time without any new posts. I really wish it was still available, but I don't think it can be found anywhere else. It's a shame because I think a lot of people could benefit from it, and I think it's a handy skill women ought to pick up.

I think it would turn me on a bit to see a women pee standing using only her hands. Does anybody know who Sophie Rickett is? She is a British artist who was photographed peeing on several London landmarks and those pictures were displayed in an art gallery several years ago. I've only been able to find one of those pictures, which was actually posted at the site mentioned above, until they were asked to remove it for copyright violation.