Oprah

[Anonymous]

It is in my opinion Oprah is involved with witchcraft and or masonry. It is my opinion that Oprah's 6 slaves ie the ones she said in an interview that she calls upon to get ideas for her show are not really dead but slaves of satanic ritual abuse that are attacked on all levels of existence using well researched psychological warfare and technological harassment and the emotions they bleed are the topics she uses for her show. But this is something that started in Connecticut in my opinion that Gayle King told her about and that Gayle King and her are lesbians in my opinion because these witches and or satanists and or masons are into that stuff.
Oprah will always give Gayle king money and take care of her because Gayle King introduced her to this kind of satanic Market research that Oprah now uses in my opinion because Gayle King used this herself in Connecticut in my opinion a state run by satanists and or witches and or masons.
it becomes a game to the harassers in my opinion.
Picture this Oprah as queen of the Nile in a boat with 6 slaves rowing her boat and Gayle king whipping the slaves while their backs are bleeding. While someone is feeding orpha her food.

[imported_shiola]

Yeah, I can see that too.

Oprah is also in leather strapping getting fed cream buns.

Did you see Arnie on Oprah saying 'Pumping is better than Cumming'? Now that's policy making.

An anagram of Oprah is Phoar - not that I'd ever say that if I saw her.

[flours8]

I happen to have caught the end of Oprah's show today. Did anyone else notice how the camera made everything look less wide including Oprah when they were ending the show?

[flours8]

The secrets of Oprah and how she makes her billions, ah, wouldn't all the marketers and advertisers like to know.

[imported_shiola]

Flours8 - welcome to the forum.

Tis true that Oprah is rolling in cash and has a varied weight. They'll probably start using a fisheye lense soon to do her show. I think she makes her cash by appealing to the lowest common denominator and acting as some kind of long lost aunt that'll help ease all their pains and ills. Of course, where is she when they leave the studio and they're all at home getting beaten up by their drunken husbands and finding solice in over-eating? Nowhere, that's where.

The heartless bitch.

[daveytaylor]

Whenever I see an Oprah show in the UK it seems to be her talking about how wonderful her show is and how it has changed people's lives. I never see anything but this self congratulation and as a result I would like to see her anally gang raped by a herd of donkeys...

[flours8]

Oprah Winfrey is a marketing machine. I can even say she is more than a marketing machine. She seems to have a mission of converting people from Christianity to new age beliefs through her show as she mixes wholesome and Christian terms and topics with undercurrents of new age ideas that she by the way will sell you in the form of books and products for a price. And that price may well be your soul.

[flours8]

She and the marketers behind her have a marketing machine that fees the viewers authentic need for religion. She has exalted herself into the position of goddess of the consumers and she sells her viewers new age beliefs by associating herself with the real God as a marketing technique and then promotes the idea that "any god will do" as something that is OK to d do from a biblical point of view. Oprah will gladly step up to the plate to be your goddess of choice.

[professor puke]

when they asked how come she gave free cars to everybody, she said that she just "gets a kick" out of giving people stuff. that sounds like feeding ducks to me. i also remember seeing something in school about how she rips off the quakers or something. i can't remember

[flours8]

From Oprah Fans get into the Spirit
St. Petersburg Times
June 21, 2003

"Elizabeth Coady, a former producer at Harpo OPrah spelled backward Productions, lost a legal battle t overturn a lifetime confidentiality agreement barring her from writing a behind-the scenes book. She said Winfrey is a master manipulator of media whose helpful image is carefully calculated.
"She talks to women who don't have anyone else talking to them... who are dealing with dirty dishes and diapers most of the day, "Coady wrote in an e-mail to the St. Petersburg Times."
"Listening to her talk about living your best life is like listening t o a meditation tape; You feel good for a little while afterward, but the day goes on unchanged, "She wrote. "Oprah doesn't believe what she says. Everthing she says is intended to promote herself, not her female fans. She loves that they worship her and she velievs they do so rightfully."

[flours8]

Media Beat: A Sweet Message for Americans - "We are Family"
November 26, 2001

"Like other magaizines owned by corporate giants, O devotes most of its pages to casting a consumer spell. O is a successful Heast property, stuffed with voluptuous ads for high-priced makeup, clothes, perfumes, cars alcohol and the like. With a paid circulation of nearly 2.4 million copies, it's in the business of "Selling" its readers to the advertisers."

[flours8]

Her woven blanket over the consumers minds using her show has been woven tightly and layered. Like a black widow she walks on the layers ever weaving a tighter and tighter weave. Always drilling in people's minds a "carefully crafted persona" that is there only to "lead" and "help" the consumer.
Her whole media machine is geared to selling products, books, (for her media conglomerate friends that own the publishing industry and gain souls for the devil.
She has elevated her self goddess of the religion of consumerism.
Products services and false beliefs is what she panders.
And all you have to give is your soul.
Actually, she gets people to give away their souls unknowingly of course since she mixes new age beliefs and authentic Christian beliefs.
She creates confusion in people's Christian beliefs, opening the door for the devil.

[flours8]

From Hissyfit - You're Entitled to Our Opinion
OPrah's Not Beloved of EVeryone
The Real Reason not to buy into the Winfrey Hype

"Sall I assume that she derives the authority for these recommendations from her dead slave buddies? That must be it, since Oprah herself declares ( in In Style), "I do not act out of ego." Fair enough, but when you take a room, and instead of decorating the walls with framed photographs of your ancestors (as your decorator suggests) you hang 25 mirrors and call it the "Hall of Sef-Reflection" (don't believe me? In Style published a picture), one has to raise the possiblitiy of vanity."
"Can we at least agaree taht her claim never to act "out of ego " is pretty disingenuous? My feeling is that it takes a pretty big ego indeed to publish your "production diary" from a movie called Beloved, and then call that diary (in its published form) Beloved, in order to court market confusion with a Pulitzer Prize winning novel. In fact, it takes a pretty big ego to publish a production diary at all when you're not , say a writer."

[flours8]

On the issue of her slaves, ah yes the 6 dead slaves, but are they really dead? Another piece of the thread her tightly woven blanket is woven from.

When Will Oprah Free Her Slaves?
By wayne Jackson
Christian Courier: Penpooints
Monday October 26, 1998

"It is a grievous tragedy that many, like Oprah winfrey, and those mesmerized by er are enmeshed in antiquated superstition."
"First, when is "Missy OPrah, " going to release her slaves? IF I recall correctly, that's what the Emancipation Proclamation was supposed to have accomplished. Calling someone "at will" to do your bidding, sounds a lot like servitude to me." "Ssecond, what would a slave, who lived more than a century ago, possibly know about how to advise Oprah in the daily affairs of her entertainment enterprises? This is hilarious, and yet numerous people, in wide-eyed amazement, believe precisely what the TV mogul says regarding the matter. IT's really indredible. It reveals how void of spiritual knowledge OPrah actually is, and how gullible many Amercians are".

[poppet]

wow...you really hate her!! thats so cool!!

[flours8]

Personality mapping using satanic ritual abuse. You know market researchers gleen alot of information from observing how people react under stress as how they react emotionally (Oprah seems to present alot of answers to people's emotional needs) 90% of finding a concept for Oprah's media Machine show is determining where the masses' needs lie.
10% is filling the need, this is the easy part, with in the above example, benefiting her media conglomerate friends publishing business and her satanic witch new age buddies with self help books that mix the fulfilling the need with a new age book gaining souls for the devil and profits for the publishing industry.

You see by having a slave focus group, (her 6 dead slaves, but are they really dead?) creating stress and chaos in their lives while studying them, (no work on her part, so she does not get her hands dirty), the only little work she has to do is pick the product or the topic for her show based on what topic of concern rises out of the chaos created by the satanists. The cream really does rise to the top.
That goes for the emotional and psychological mapping of the personalities of her slaves, so she can wear their personalities as her own with things they say and from their perceptions as they try and dig their way out of the muck and mier.
Like a dear shot and killed in the wilderness, nothing goes to waste in the OPrah machine of the 6 dead slaves living essence. All is fed to the audiences as bait to sell products, and books that are to drag people into the new age religion of consumerism and away from the True Lord, Dominus.

[imported_shiola]

Get in there Flours8!!

If I ever get tickets to watch Oprah, I'm sending them to you....whilst I contemplate why anyone gave me tickets to watch Oprah in the first place.

Oprah has her own magazine - http://www.oprah.com/omagazine/omag_landing.jhtml You can even contribute - http://www.oprah.com/omagazine/omag_contrib.jhtml

[flours8]

E! Online News - oprah to Underlings: SHout Your Mouths!
By Emily Farache
April 17, 2000

"But while the law sided with OPrah, the alledged free-speech booster is being called out as a hypocrite. "Ah, the irony. SHe's extorting her employees, "Jane Kirtley, a professor of media ethics and law at the University of Minnesota, tellls the Chicago Tribune."
"Speaking about Harpo, COady says, "there's no sense of justice inside, which is so ironic in light of the public image of someone who touts herself as an advocate for business ethics and spirituality."
"No comment on the case or the confidentiality policy from Oprah or Harpo."

[imported_shiola]

My God, check this out - http://www.ltartdolls.com/oprah.html - Oprah dolls.

A beautiful couple - http://www.jackson-ifc.com/international/downl/cover/VHS/oprah.jpg

Another beautiful couple - http://clubs.calvin.edu/chimes/2000.10.20/images/oprah.jpg

[flours8]

"Oprah has her own magazine, you can even contribute."

I already have, so to speak.

And this website to contribute to her magazine doesn't anybody see what that is? Less work for OPrah and her lady in waiting Gayle King to do for ideas for her magazine.

They get the profits, her slaves and people that contribute do all the work.

[flours8]

Oprah's Misery Index
From Christianity Today.
By Susan Wise Bauer

Oprah's Misery Index
Her book club's selections' recurring theme: Sufferers who save themseves. "Oprah tends to be evasive about her selection criteria ("Ic chose these books," She told one interviewer, "because they are readable, poignant, thought-provoking"). "Oprah novels are equally shameless. Illness and the loss of love are givesn, but almost every book also involves a dead or abused child".
"Stories of suffering to be honest, must end with one of two truths: the presence of God, or a void where he sould be. God appeared to Job, not with answers, but in the overwhelming reality of his creation. Job, still puzzled, still not understanding, placed his hand over his mouth. Not all suffering will end with epiphany of the whirlwind; not allsufferers will come face to face with teh person of God. Thse who do. Like Job, will bow their heads and admit a riddle that cannot be solved. Those who do not will live in a world without God."
"but this godless world isn't filled with sef-sufficiency and self-created meaning. Wiesel ends his chilling memoir Night, not with faith in himself, but with a long look in the mirror. "I had not seen my self since the ghetto," he writes, "from the depths of the mirror, a corpse gazed back atme. The look in his eyes, as they stared into mine, has never left me. " AND THIS IS WHY THE OPRAH NOVELS ARE ULTIMATELY DISHONEST< OFFERING A FALSE CONSOLATION THAT CAN ONLY LEAD TO DEEPER DESPAIR. For in the end, whithout God, the sufferer will not find community, courage, newfound love, and gambloing profits. She will find instead a void; not self renewal, but the empty eyes of a corpse."

Oprah drives into the viewers mind not to look toward God in time of suffering through the same message drummed into faithful followers minds using her book club pics to say what she herself will not come right out and say to her sheep. God is bad, Oprah and her new age ideas is good and people should replace their beliefs in the true God with a bvelief in goddess oprah and her new age ideas and life styles that she wants to sell you over and over again.

[daveytaylor]

While I do hate Oprah and would happily see her picked off by a sniper rifle I must say that your obsession is rather worrying. I really really hate Ant and Dec, combovers and Rory Bremner but I tend to also think of other things during the day.

[flours8]

It has been said that TV aND THE MEDIA IN GENERAL SHAPES CULTURE. iS THIS HOW PEOPLE want American culture to be shaped? Into newage beliefs that offer no real satisfaction for people's hunger for authentic religion? With their spiritual needs never being fully filled by books they feel they must buy from Oprah's gurus? Or books' themese that give the same message over and over again of don't look toward God in time of suffereing, look toward who then queen OPrah and what beliefs and lifestyles she says she has for you to sell you that will fulfill all your dreas, but really doesn't.

[flours8]

daveytaylor

I am pointing out how Oprah courts confusion with authentic Christian beliefs with new age witchcraft, not to mention how her show is media machine that grinds up people for a profit.
I think this is important information.
I also think this is valuable information for honest marketers and advertisers to know all that shines is not gold.
Witches use confusion.
Shall I say anymore?
Maybe you don't mind your souls, your minds and your pocketbooks have been waged war upon for profit.
That there are those that truly believe consumerism is a religion to offer human sacrifices to to put life into their media products.
I happen to believe this is very important information.

[daveytaylor]

Maybe you don't mind your souls, your minds and your pocketbooks have been waged war upon for profit.

Wow, calm down there that man.

That there are those that truly believe consumerism is a religion to offer human sacrifices to to put life into their media products.
I happen to believe this is very important information.

It is important but a) I already knew that and b) I didn't need 37 posts to tell me.

Oprah is one of the worst media cohorts who play this trick but she is not alone. The vast majority of the media in the Western world is about telling you not just what to think but what to buy. It is about how the label on your trainers is more important than the exploited youth who stitched them together. About how the troubles of the world are divided into black and white. About how the news you hear and the programmes you watch are about appealing to a demographic who can be successfully targeted by the consumerist machine during 30 second breaks. I hate them all and they suck at the teat of Satan.

However, multiple posting will not help your cause. The sheep who need a sheperd will be put off and run away for the safety of the media enclosure. They have been taught to distrust those who speak against their sheperds. They have been told that you are crazy, evil and manipulative. How your constant baggering is the cry of a desperate soul looking for assistance in their crazy beliefs.

Talk to people but don't preach. Tell them and let them work it out but don't badger them. YOu will only get one or two but then the three of you will get two each... then the nine of you will get two each... and so on.

[flours8]

Your right about her not the only one that does dirty business with dirty money. As far as discussing and not preaching. I don't know how to discuss, I only know how to preach.

[flours8]

It's not healthy to watch tv. And the magazines, they are full of only what the editors want people to know. All types of media in the U.S. -radio, tv, magazines, publishing newspapers are owned by less and less media conglomerates. Last time I looked I think there were 5 media conglomerages that own all the different types of media products in the U.S.A.
They all work with each other as far as I am concerned along with the other big corporations that want to sell their products to propogate this religion of consumerism. And people don't realize the conditioning that is going on through the media.
Social engineering and new age social engineering like the Oprah show.
Not only that, people are being conditioned to be animals via the media so it will be easier for those that want controll over everybody to say, "Look people are acting like animals, they have to be controlled", and profited off of.
All the media is doing now is conditioning people to be observed while they are doing their most private of things. They are also pitting people against each other so the loser is sent away from the group til there is one winner and that person gets the money from the ones who have it.
A little message here? Do what I say and I will give you money. Betray people in your group, so the whole group is destroyed or sent away and you will get money.
They are encouraged to break moral laws compete against others in their group and so they can make money.
Basically selling their soul on national tv.
People are being conditioned to work against their social group or family to disband it for profit.
They psychological implications are mind staggering.

[flours8]

From Me Head
by Michael Ripley
Irrefutable Evidence That Oprah Winfrey is Sauron, the Dark Lord of Mordor

The Eyes

Extreme closeups are extremely rare on Oprah herself because the producers of the show don't want you to have a good look at her eyes.
I've seen two close-ups myself, and both of them scared the shit out of me. Tolkien described them as "a window into nothingness," and I'll add that I've never seen her eyelids.

The Secrecy

A master of deceit and treachery, Oprah is virtually an unreachable entity, holed away in a far-off Dark Tower. I don't knkow of anyone who can claim to have seen Oprah--the real oprah--in person, but I've heard rumors that her staff members occasionally refer to her as "The Necromancer." I tried calling her once, to see if she was responsible for the breeding of the Olog-Hai, and her socalled secretary insisted I had the wrong number.

Fear of Hobbits

Have you ever seen anyone on Oprah shorter than Oprah herself? It isn't a coincidence. If I had my ass burned by Hobbits, it'd be a cold day in Mordor before I'd invite one of them on the show for an interview. Same goes for beared old men in dresses.

Creator of the One Ring

The Oprah Book Club has become a modern-day allegory for a powerful Ring: an ideological circle of New Age (read Middle Earth) spells and curses, wrapped in a pretty package of self-help covers. Capture the Ring, and you could become one of the most powerful cult figures in the world. Destroy it and you could spell Oprah's demise. I don't have to tell you: One Ring to rule them all.

[flours8]

Destroy the ring.

[poppet]

I really really hate Ant and Dec.

:shock:

that's you off my christmas card list!

[flours8]

Spinning webs of illusion to gain power over your souls, minds, pocketbooks and livihood and the media using her show as a weapon.

All webs are spinned for control.

The word "spin" tells you alot right there.

Hype spin, spooing new age poison and everyone laps it up like it is the answer as Oprah weighs in as the goddess of the consumer (a name she has pidgeon holed everyone into) for the religion of consumerism.

She has reduced human beings into consumers.

And everyone goes so willingly to the alter (tv) to worship her. And as her former Coady stated in the article, "They worship her and she thinks they do so rightfully".

Deceived. Who is the author of deception?

You should think about that.

[imported_shiola]

Kill Oprah!
Kill Oprah!
Kill Oprah!
Kill Oprah!
Kill Oprah!

[flours8]

Shiola no.

Got to destroy that ring.

[flours8]

Break the power of her illusions, Destroy her web of confusions with authentic Christian values.

No one likes their dirty deeds laundered to the public, especially to other marketers and advertisers that don't play her dirty game, those people would find it very interesting to know her satanic formula for success.

Remove the webs and let the sunshine in.

[flours8]

A PPOOOOOOOOOOOO emmm

by me.

about the oprah the witch.

Look at me and you will see a reflection of yourself
distorted though,
what I tout is not what Chirstians are all about,
you will see in your reflections when you look at me things added that God says should never be,
ner age beliefs, new age practices, witchcraft- all abominations to the One called God,
are what I add in my reflections of you when you look at me,
making yourselves look like I want you to be,
distored and corrupted in your Christian beliefs in the eyes of God.

I want to make you abominations to God with my new age beliefs I tout and sell you, (that is how satanically wise I am I can get you to buy your own damnation and make you want it!)
But I have no reverence for God, on ly for the powers of satan, for I am a goddess in his kingdom, me, queen goddess of the nile OPrah,
fall down and worship at my feet and I will give you gifts from companies that fall down and worship me
and want their products on my show!
These products too are the answers to all your problems feeds your weaknesses, lean on me, don't look to God!
See how I am able to get all to come and worship me? There is no God, God is bad, I am a goddess that will give you all spiritual humanistic answers to all your problems.
Do Not Look to the one called Yahweh, make anything god except the Alpha and the Omega!
Look to a tree, a product, a belief anything but the beliefs of those that are called Christians, and which I deliberately but deceivingly call myself to lead you all away from God.

For I can never worship God as he is, the I am, because I will never admit to how I use people to build my empire publicly, something I will never do, therefore I will never be a Christian but I will make people think I am a Christian and court confusion with Christian beliefs, and I will do my damnest to bring everyone down with me to worship the devil, while I become a billionaire, through my new age touting,

always shouting,

how good I am, a counterfeit of the great "I am"

now pass me the green eggs and ham.

[flours8]

OPrah Winfrey- Friend or Foe
According to Prophecy Ministries
By Mrs. Marie Perkins

"The changes were small and insignificant at first, but as she grew in popularity and influence, she adopted what seemed to me to be almost a campaign. And that was when I became very cautious in my viewing of her show."

Ah yes, all you little oprahdites, be cautious is viewing her shows if you are not spiritually grounded in all truths of the Bible. HEr courting confusion offense plays on all people's lack of full knowledge to confuse you into thinking up is down and down is up, good is bad and bad is good.

[poppet]

you're bordering on an obsession! you do know that don't you?

[flours8]

If I my posts were exclusively another topic would that be bordering on obsession too?

What If posted exclusively on how the media in general is brainwashing people is that bordering on obsession too?

Or If I posted exclusively on sex would that be bordering on an obsession too?

There is so much not seen in how OPrah builds her empire there is alot of stuff to work with here. Any honest advertiser and or marketer would love to know this stuff about the Oprah.

[dontpanic]

Any honest advertiser and or marketer would love to know this stuff about the Oprah.

Ah yes...the mistake was that you thought you'd find an honest advertiser or marketer here.

[poppet]

If I my posts were exclusively another topic would that be bordering on obsession too?


Or If I posted exclusively on sex would that be bordering on an obsession too?

Umm...yea actually.

[imported_shiola]

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[poppet]

I must be a marketing mans dream - I believed everything you just said.

[flours8]

I was reading artificial synchronicity language manipulation kundalini and the corner of reality.

It mentions aliens and lizards. No, I don't believe there are aliens and lizards I think the author is making up names because he isn't going to give real names of the movers and shakers in the media.

I can sum up the huge site of artificial synchronicity language manipulation kundalini and the corner of reality with a few sentences.

The media, Not all media, is using it's shows, live and precorded, not all shows, and their printed magazines and newspapers, not all printed magazines and newspapers to hunt people's minds with, in conjuction with harassing their victims in their day to day lives by harassers in their real world,
as a way to make a connection with the general audiences' needs and wants to generate winning shows that make money as they make sacrifices to satan as they slowly kill their victims.

It is all about the "hunt" and "making connections" and "making money" and "killing their victims" while they make money using the victim's as their little private slave market research groups.

It is really quite diabolical and simple at the same time.

The media has too much power.

They are abusing it.

Michael Sirken or Sirkin where are you?
You and Joseph Sidenstricker, the actuaries (those that speculate on how long a person lives under stressors) who left to open your own media market research group, where are you, I have a few questions I would like to ask you.

[flours8]

poppet,

I think there is alot of OPrah to unearth, that is why I am posting about her.

I see it as an expedition.

I think there is more there than is seen through those rose colored lenses used in her show.

[imported_shiola]

Check out - http://www.reptilianagenda.com and http://www.davidicke.com

Maybe our resident Midlander, Davey Taylor, can shed more light on this crazy ex-Coventry goalkeeper? Although, playing in goal for Coventry City is enough to make anyone go a little crazy in the skull.

[flours8]

I think all this lizard agenda is just something to keep people's attention on the world arena or even the media arena. That people with influence and power and money aren't afraid to do nasty things to people for profit.

Hence the lizard agenda is born.

I don't believe in lizard people.

This lizard thing is just something to throw people off the track of what is occurring in this world.

The bad people are attributing bad things to aliens to throw people off the their own tails.

One of their mottos? "Blame the aliens for our satanic crimes".

[flours8]

Bad people's motto:

Never tell the truth.

"IT isn't us who are perpetrating these crimes against the dignity of human beings that smell of satanic ritual abuse, it was the aliens".

And people like David Icke are just one of their spokesman to spread this alien crap and make money in the publishing idustry which by the way these corporate evil people own.

[flours8]

An example of their raping of people's lives while they make money off of them in the media while their foot soldiers harass the victims.

example:

Victim has a friend from Italy come over. There is a personal relationship.
There are specific aspects of the relationship the victim notices and sees as a problem.

After and I repeat after, as in all the instances of coincidences with different media products, this occurred with the Italian in the victims life,
Oprah has a show where:

her male friend from Italy gave her this book about relationships that address the same concerns the victim had in her relationship with the Italian.

Notice the play on words how they are coincided with the victims life, and turned around back to the victim and the audience.

a. idea taken from tortured victims life.
b. not much work for the Oprah to come up with the idea when she has slaves that are tortured 24/7 that she takes from the top what the victim does to shovel themselves out of the chaos created by them as a topic for her show.
c. because it is something that has really occurred in someone's life the audience is able to connect to the topic queen OPrah wants to give the solution for in her show.
d. This makes a connection where the audience trusts her, but unbenownst to them: 1: it wasn't her original idea, and 2: she sows new age ideas into her show to lead people away from God and to substitute her as the all knowing all seeing (like Rush LImbaugh) all knowing queen with all the answers.
e. She puts very little work into her show. It is all done for her. Her show is merely a machine that uses people to grind up and feed to the audience so they too will get the taste for human essence.

[flours8]

And it is meant for the victim to see. It is like, "ha ha we can do whatever we want to do to you while we use you to make money, ha ha ha".

What do they do to the victim?

All is done right out in the open
People be nasty for no specific reason
Good friends start dying
rumors are started to assassinate the victim
Oprah's show isn't the only media used as a weapon to wage psychological warfare on the victim, ie, local live new shows, magazines and commercials timed exactly with the same topic the victim may be addressing at that specific moment in time.
The media is being used as a weapon against people.
Then there is the high pitched noises, the energy rape, the overstimulation with vibrations that go through the house, shocks that go through the house, can feel the electricity or vibrations in the fillings in the teeth the constant aiming of energy at the head that causes brain damage and in a "no time zone " feeling. Electricity that jumps out of the sockets if stand to close to them or wires, street lights that go off or on just as the victim goes under them, the shocks that hit the eyes, cause dizziness, and a squeezing feeling and a burning sensation on the body.

I can go on and on and on.

the list is long.

The point is people mean nothing to OPrah, or the people who approached her through Gayle King for this type of satanic market research and game of hunting people, grinding them up and feeding them back to the public trhough their media products to give LIFE with someone's essence to their media product to make it a living media product using someone else's live. The supreme sacrifice to satan and success.

The media has become a tool for satanists and masons to use as a weapon of mass destruction and consumer consumption and profit, with people being ground up and used in their media profit machines.

[flours8]

Example of mirroring in Hartford courant with their negative twist to drag down the victim similiar to the thread in all Of Oprah's pics.
(Gayle King Oprah's Gal pal use to be on local news in hartford that also mirrors topics from the victim's life)

Made up simplified example:

Victim went swimming. Eating alot because of harassment by the satanic market researchers who work in the media world. She looks in the mirror at the locker room. See's how fat she has gotten. Say's, "I am fat". Goes home depressed pulls out the chocolate chip icecream starts eating it.
THinks, "Oh well, maybe tomorrow will be better."

In the next day or two, a female writer in the Hartford Courant decides to share in a piece about her personal life. She says in the article she went swimming and was depressed because her mother-in-law was mean to her. She looks in the mirror and says, "I am fat". She goes home and pulls out the chocolate chip icecream and starts eating it. She thinks, "I just cannot take it anymore, I just want my life to end."

Notice the mirroring in the article in everything except the end where there is a negative twist?

They know she will be look ing in the paper to see what they have stolen from her life today to sell papers and fill up their empty pages.

In advertising there is a trick, you mirror someone exactly as they are, and then the person doing the mirroring does something and the person mirrored will do what the person mirroring is doing.

Same thing when you mirror someone in the media, chances are increased (remember they work alot with speculating how the victim will react to their media mirroring) the victim may take in that negative twist they added to their mirror of her.

The target is the mind,
And making a profit while they play their death games.

They are mirroring the victim in their article just as they want to see them: Dead.

Side note: Female writer will get accolades for sharing her life with the reader and male writer stalkers will get accolades for getting into their character's mind.

Similiarities between negative twist and OPrah's pics?

What did Susan Wise Bauer from the Christianity today article say titled Oprah's Misery Index ???????????

""""""AND this is why the Oprah's novels are ultimately dishonest, offering false consolation that can only lead to deeper despair""""""""""""""""""

The key word here is despair.

what Oprah and her game players are doing to the victim and her family is what Oprah is trying to do with all the pics. Drive despair into all those who read her books, in addition to continuing the more personal harassment of the victim.

They are widening their horizons as far as enslaving people.

This is part of putting people's minds into a slave mode.

And by the way this mirroring with the negative twist is only one of many examples of their media hunting attacks on their victims.

LTV

[flours8]

The Hartford Courant. Examples of hunting victim and using the victim's life to sell papers by taking pertinent topics of the victim AFTER they have occurred in the victim's life. The topic taken usually has quite a page spread. Lots of time the front page of a section, a whole page at times and is written from the victim's perspective.

How does this benefit the paper?

90% of the work is done for them. They got a topic and a perspective.
The writer then adds their twist on the topic and the perspective and the editors have part of their newspaper finished. It is all about an end product with as little work as possible from the media production end. While their victim's lifes are cast into turmoil so they see how the victim reacts and what they do so they can use the victim's reactions as ideas for more topics.

Alot of it is about mirroring back to the victim a more negative picture than really occurred in the victim's life stolen from the victim's life as the media product's own topic and perspective.

A made up simplified example:

Say the victim is a girl. The girl is overeating because she is being harassed. She goes to swim. In the locker room she looks in the mirror. She is fat. She goes home and eats ice-cream, chocolate chip.
She thinks about all the satanists are doing to her and then gets tired and says, "well, maybe tomorrow will be better".

Notice the girl trying to be more positve when she says, "maybe tomorrow will be better".

In the next day or two, a female writer for the Hartford Courant decides to share a personal experience she had at the locker room while she was swimming. The writer writes about how her mother-in-law is mean to her and she keeps eating ice-cream because her mother-in-law is upsetting her. She looks in the mirror and says, "I am fat." She goes home sits down and eats ice-cream, chocolatechip, because her mother-in-law was mean to her. BBUUUUUUUUUUUUUTTTTTTTTTTTT,
unlike the victim's more positive attitude the writer writes something like:"
I couldn't take it anymore, Life is horrible, all I could think about was my life being over"

Notice the similiar experiences with a negative twist at the end.

The satanists are mirroring the girls life back to her the way they want to see her: dead.

They know she is going to read the paper because she wants to know what was stolen from her life that day to sell papers and to fill their pages, and their local news, of which Gayle King Oprah's Gal pal use to be on the local news in the victim's state.

Their target is the girl's mind.

It is an advertising trick to sit in front of someone and do exactly what the person in front of them is doing then suddenly the person mirroring the first person does something different, the mirrored person will do what the person mirroring will do.

Same thing when mirroring through the media, the chances are the victim may unconsciously be led .

Only they want to lead their victim's on a spiral downward.

Their goal is to lead the victim they are mirroring into deeper despair.

And ultimately death.

Just like all of OPrah's book pics, what did the author say about her books in the article by susan Wise Bauer from Christianity Today:
Oprah's misery index ????????????????

"""""""And this is why the OPrah's novels are ultimately dishonest, offereing false consolation that can only lead to deeper despair"""""""""""

Despair, all the novels lead to despair.

Many of the attacks (their are many kinds, this is only an example of one) on the victim when they mirror the victim's lives back to themselves via the media products have the negative twist to lead the victim into deeper despair.

What the media conglomerates are doing to the victim Oprah is applying to AAAAALLLLLLLLL who watch her show and still continues the more personal attacks on the victim and their family.

iT IS ALL ABOUT GETTING IDEAS FOR THEIR MEDIA PRODUCTS AND MIXING MARKETING RESEARCH AND DATA MINING WITH SATANIC RITUAL ABUSE WHILE THEY PLAY THEIR DEATH GAMES.

[flours8]

Recent coincidence with the nations oldest eviliist newspaper, The Hartford Courant.

My father has cancer. My nephew bought my mother a book on light therapy. Supposedly this scientist came up with a way to cure cancer with frequecies.
My mother and I discussed the topic of this type of cancer cure at her house.

3 or 4 days later guess what was in the front page of the health section of the Hartford Courant?
A whole third of the front page.
Light therapy done in Connecticut hospitals used to cure cancers.
Coincidence?
I think not.
People that are harassed and hunted and used by the media conglomerates have too many similiarities with the media meat grinders crappy newspapers and media products that statistically go beyond what would be considered "just a coincidence".

Not much work done there to create that article.
All they do is take from our lives what is most pertinent at that time, (the cream they skim) and go about writing an article on the same topic and
also advertises businesses in Connecticut related to that topic?

See how they work?

You see these media bullies not only want to sell their media products they want to sell Connecticut businesses.
So what was featured in the article and given free advertising?
The hospital and doctors that do light therapy.

How much work gone into this front page article of the health section. A third of a page?
Not much.

Their recipe?
Get topic from harassed and hunted victims,
and tie it together with something going on in Connecticut
to give the state's businesses free advertising in their newspaper.
In this way they build up Connecticut's businesses.
By doing their satanic market research on sample of Connecticut's populus, they are
1. Making a connection with the populus
2. Find needs in the sample populus that the rest of the state's populus may be experiencing too.
3. Then the paper becomes a vehicle, a big advertising machine that takes the need and matches it up with a business in COnnecticut that fills that need, and writes an article about it, thus getting generating more business.

So all you newspapers and advertisers out there this is how Ct. media does their dirty business while building up the businesses in Ct.

You want to know how to come up with ideas for you media products books articles radio and talk shows and magazines and produce a product without much work?

Go ask the satanists who work for the Hartford Courant.

[flours8]

For the past 2 days I have been looking up pixies and fairies and the occult. No I don't mean gay people I mean real fairies and pixies.
It talked about how fairies aren't all that nice and they create mischief and they do bad and good and they are linked with the devil. Most people think they are linked with goodness but they are not.
It was suggested on the site I looked up that they be called the little people so not to get them upset.

So guess who was sitting me facing me while I went to church early to practice with choir, who was never there before and who was early, no one else was sitting in church?

You will never guess.

A dwarf aka a little people.

Those bastards planted a dwarf there to play on a perceived fear I had becauase of reading about the fairies.

I cannot stop laughthing as I write this.

The lengths they go to play on my fears.

This is another example of a kind of tactic they use on their victims.

Placing things and people around the victim in the community that causes or (they speculate with their computer programs because remember this all started with the actuaries I use to work with at Aetna who as their job speculated on how long people will live under certain stressors who left the insurance business to start their own market research company) fear.

Fear can immobilize a person. Fear can stop the mightiest of soldiers, fear is not of God and fear can stop a person from what they should be doing.

No wonder when I went to have prayer said over me and I told the lady I think it is the satanic masons harassing me and my family.

You know what she prayed?

Mother Mary don't the masons interfere with what God's plans are for her.

Only usually I don't laugh I am usually crying at their cruelty. But this time I could not help laughing (1X in 21years of being harassed and slowly killed) with that dwarf sitting just a few pews from the choir facing me at the time that is suppose to be my getaway from this hell. That was one funny moment.

But church isn't a safe place either, but more peace is found there.
There have been people set there to say things at church and right outside from church so to disturb my peace.

The sad thing about this type of harassment it is hard to prove.

LTV

But singing holy songs is praying twice.

And praying and staying close to God is the only way for someone like me.

WHose life is on hold and in a prison right out in the open.

It just shows you what cowards they are. They have to have a whole army of attackers attack me and my family in devilish ways, they don't dare come right to me. They work through other people. They are cowards and evil, and probably posessed megalomaniac mentally ill people that are trying to make me look crazy cause they have no creativeness, no imagination, and are cheap, they want unpaid slaves to whom their creativeness is only in how they can come up with satanic ritual abuse ways of abusing their slaves and torturing, hoping they will Give up on God so they will become putty in their hands while they slowly kill them to make a sacrifice up to satan for their billion dollar empires to be built.

All right out in the open.

[flours8]

Coincidence?

I got a message on my answering machine from my friend from Italy.
And I thought, "wouldn't it be nice if I can just run away from this hell and go live in Italy."

Notice I was considering, so there was some momentum in my thinking in that direction.

My momentum in thinking is important because that is the wind that blows their sails on their ships the pirates use to attack their victim's psyches.

I went and stopped at a pet shop, guess what was sitting in the parking lot of a pet shop on a cold day in October?

A beutiful sparkling brand new huge boat that had addiamo written on the side of it.

Get it?

Addiamo?

I don't know Italian at all but I think, I may be wrong but I think addiamo
means "we go".

Get it?

Who else uses props in their business with lots of money?

Maybe people in the media?

Addiamo.

We go.

Italian.

Just had a message on my machine from someone from Italy, and I was serious thinking of going to get out of this hell.

Get it.

Another lesson from the abused:

If someone has a desire, which may or may not be good, they (the evil ones play on that desire and try to see how far they can ride the tide of the person's desire to use it against the victim's own best intentions).

Every emotion they use to blow the sails of their attacking ships into the persons psyche and life.

What if I was so upset and thought , Oh my God this is my way out, I can go to Italy. And I am attacked so much physically, emotionally spiritually, mentally, maybe they speculated they can take advantage of my expected state of mind?
With a suggestion written on a side of a boat? Addiamo?
Maybe give it a little push?

Like a push over a cliff?

Maybe if I am so panicked I might see the Addiamo written on that boat and think, Oh my God, I would love to go to Italy, that is it I will go to Italy, that is the answer to my problem. I will just go and drop everything and go to Italy.

But it may not be in my best interest.

That is the whole point.

Trying to beat the victim's head and life and body so much, their planted little and not so obvious suggestions might take hold if the person is open to anything because they are so panicked, downtrodden and abused.

It is a sick game they play.

And this is how they try and lead the victims around by the nose, by the power of the victim's own thoughts.

USing the power of their victims thoughts against themselves with the abuse and coincidences as the impetus inputs along with their suggestions. The addiamo written on the boat. Where I have never seen a boat before, ever in the cold, at night in a parking lot sitting out in front of the pet store.

Soon the victim confuses the sickos made up propped coincidental world with the real world. They start making decisions based on the suggestion ridden made up world of the media satanists rather the real world as they satanists hope they would and maybe as they speculate the victim will act against their own interest?

By the way, cofusion is a sign of someone practicing witchcraft on someone.
Not all instances but in this situation, yes.

This is psychological warfare with the media being shaped as a weapon to individual targets they use as ideas, and an overall attack on the whole population.

The media, a weapon.

You know I was talking to a charasmatic priest who told me to watch The Ring.

He said The evil one is a spirit of the air.

He said it can indeed come through the television, radio, and I think in a more concrete way through the written word.

The media has become a weapon to:

attack people
spread evil
put fear into people
destroy people's belief in God
spread new age ideas that only lead to a closer association with Satan

I strongly suggest not to watch TV

Be very careful what you watch or listen to.

Melba Moore the Broadway singer was attacked by a group similiar of those attacking me and my family after she confronted her husband about signing her name to legal documents and he stole all her money.
She was harassed, feared for her life, she said these people were possessed mentallly ill, power hungry people. She was watched 24 hours a day, she was blacklisted and had her children go live somewhere else while all this was occurring because she feared. She said they had a way to get into her mind to attack it so she would develop an anything goes attitude. She had to watch her thoughts and she had to have something in her attention stronger than them and their attacks and that was JEsus and the bible.

In any military maneuver you go for what the person believes in. Attack and destroy their beliefs in God, you got them by the balls.

Hence OPrah's spreading her net over the whole population with new age beliefs setting herself up as a goddess. Getting people to look away from God or Dominus. (Satan hates the name Dominus, or Lord because he wants to be Lord over all people).

Dominus, dominus, dominus, dominus, dominus, dominus, dominus, dominus.

TV is dangerous to the mind, and soul.

Be very selective in what you watch.

[flours8]

The get me out of this mess writing game.

How would you write the ending of this?

At this time it don't look good for the victim.

How about writing something about the power of thoughts and the victim.

Write the victim out of this mess using the power of her own thoughts.

[flours8]

Oh, and when I went into the pet shop there was not boat there.
It was only when I came out of the pet shop to blue addiamo boat was there.

It wouldn't matter where I went that evening. Whatever store I came out of there would have been the blue addiamo boat sitting there in plain site as I walked out the door.

[dontpanic]

It's not that I don't care about Oprah....it's just that I really, really, really don't care about Oprah.

[poppet]

DP - don't tell me you actually read all that shit!

[imported_shiola]

Yeah, I've ignored this thread after about the 4th post. Flours8 is a disturbed fellow, I mean just read that last post. How do you get from Oprah to 'blue addiamo boats outside stores'?

Flours8 - please give us a brief synopsis of this thread so far....a Dummies Guide if you will.

[poppet]

Shiola be careful!! He might actually tell you :shock:

[dontpanic]

Oh hell no, poppet. I didn't even finish the first post.

Here is the dummies version, though - oprah = the lizard king = satanists = mind numbing posts = oprah. It's the cycle of life, really...

[flours8]

No,

This is the dummies version:

Oprah = satanists money making front + death games for profit + mirroring victims via the media + new age slave agenda + harvesting souls for the devil = evil.

[flours8]

"Mind numbing posts". I like it. Thank you, that is a complement.


___________________________________________
"Pocohontos don't like anyone messing with her teepee".

[flours8]

"It's the cycle of life really..."

Yup you got it. The cycle of life. Satanic new ager witches love to recycle
people back into their businesses to make money.

The key word here is, RECYCLE, humans for profit.

[poppet]

Oh Jesus! He's off again.

[flours8]

Channel 3 where Gail King Oprah's lady in waiting worked as a news reader.

Example of mirroring victim's lives for profit while filling air time and advertising Connecticut and it's businesses.

From 2000

1/1/2000
Visited older sister who is heavily harassed by the satanists.
But she thinks the energy is kundalini.
DUHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
I don't think so sister!
It is high tech frequency harassment.

Anyways,

I was visiting her and playing with her kitten. Her daughter told me about the vet's recommendation about the cat.

Guess what was on the next day on channnel 3 ?

Complementary medicine for pets.



6/7/2001

Talked to a person whom their metal joint they had put in got infected.

Guess what was on 6/8/2001

Local news "health spot" on metal joints.


PLease notice in all all all all all all all alll these coincidences with the satanic media, the media has the same topic on sometimes later that same day, or the next day or the day after it occurred to me and my family.


It is easy dirty money and easy filling up air time for these media satanists.
Little work on there part to fill their local news with topics.
Most of the work is following around and driving their market research victims nuts or to an early grave.

With Oprah it is about 1 - 2 weeks after.

Notice the trail of mirroring me and my family's pertinent life situations from the Connecticut media where Gail King Oprah's lady in waiting worked and started there has found it's way to the OPrah show where Gayle King works now?

There is a trail people!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And if I can find Mike Sirken or Sirkin and Joseph Sidenstricker the 2 actuaries that I worked for at Aetna where this started who left to open up a media market research firm in Texas I would like to talk to them.


10/30/2000

At work someone showed me pictures of carvings their husband did for museums.

On 11/01/2000
On channel 3 local news showed duck carvings who made them and sold them. News reader said, "there is alot of carving going on."


An example with the crappy Hartford Courant

5/3/2001
Sister called me and told me she was going to go see Gordon LightFoot in Torrington at the Werner theater. And a friend I talk to alot lives next to willimantic

5/6/2001
Section in hartford courant titled Industrial arts reviving towns via art.
Mentions about Werner theater in Torrington and art productions in Willimantic where my friend lives.

Analysis:

Took topic of entertainment and Werner theater from observing and harassing my sister and me.
Touted Connecticut's "growing" cities and the art they have in Torrington and Willimantic
There bye advertising Connecticut and it's art.


Easy work if you don't have a conscious.

[flours8]

Today queen Oprah announced her new book club pic.

UNsurprisingly the same themes pop up in this book pic too.

Yup, a definite pattern of "there is no God". Another ploy, her book club pics drum in the same message into her faithful followers. There is no God. She even takes it a step further. In this book the Good Earth there are "gods" that are worshipped. The one true God isn't even mentioned.

Then she queen Oprah steps up to the plate to be worshipped.

Concubines, opium, family arguments power and wealth and the all important land are covered in this family saga.

I think she is trying to brainwash people into living the lives of the characters in the books she suggests to read.

It is interesting that the themes in the book particurlarly about values and being close to the land, working land are good, they are mixed with negative themes - decadence, paganism concubines, opium.

My guess is she chose this book because it mixes good things with bad, and she presents the book to be "good" therebye setting the reader up for confusing immoral behavior as good.

Just more brainwashing.
I do want to note 3 coincidences with the choice of her book.

1) My nephew is in college studying chinese
2) A former friend's son just got a book published and the chinese want to make a movie out of it. She is from Korea and alot of her life is similiar to the chinese as far as family goes.
3) My sister adopted 2 girls from china

[staticxess]

I don't believe that Oprah in anyway is trying to brainwash anybody. She addresses issues that have psycologically affected people and offers these stories to people who need some inspiration that they are not getting otherwise, and which I personally think as well as many others that she has never once denounced God, but is a believer who has tried to "Do the right thing". She has numerous charitable organizations and is actively invovled in the community. You're telling us she is a witch and satanist in some grand conpiracy scheme to rule the world? What about our political and religious leaders who say they believe in God but really do the opposite flours? Sounds like you don't realize that your opinion is just that an opinion. And since when have witches EVER believed in Satan? Wiccans don't share christian beliefs but do happen to share the same values (whoa go figure). What chinese people are evil too? It's evil to adopt children of another race? Gee what a coincidence, everyone but you is brainwashed and's evil and is going to burn in hell. Do you hear voices in your head also flours? Or when your t.v. is off?
You sound like a borderline paranoid schizophrenic. Who else is plotting against you and the people like you who worship your true and only God?
No offense but Maybe it's you who is brainwashed by your Christian Media since you make references from YOUR Christian sources and only those sources. Sounds like you haven't really thought for yourself in a while flours, in fact how do you know that your source is the authority for "spirituality"? Because you've been told that? The bible has certainly been open for interpretation..Do you know Job, Jesus, Noah,Ezekiel, Peter? No I don't think you do, so you have no real evidence other than a book with stories that illicits inspiration for some people. Just like Oprah has some writers who have appeared on her show with stories of inspiration for some people who need that as well. I don't think she's trying to replace or to be God,or that she is trying in an evil attempt to denounce her beliefs in God nor have any of her guests that I know of ever proclaimed that God doesn't exist. And so what if she has made alot of money, money in itself is a tool to manipulate society but if used in the right way can help alot of people too. Look at all the people who have alot of money like the Queen for instance who haven't done half she has to help people in need. If her ideals happen to coincide with "New Age" beliefs (which if they did , where are the crystals and chakra cleansing herbal remedies at on her show?) So what! Do you even know what New Age is? Sounds to me like you haven't really investigated anything spiritually other than what has been shoved in your face brainwashing you. Call your therapist then your evangelist. Next you are going to say being open minded or getting therapy is EVIL. Oh ok go tell that to the purveyors of christianity who have burned mutilated beheaded drowned tortured killed molested segregated alienated ostracized critisized enslaved and warped the truth that the bible should stand for to make their political economic social causes believable. How awful that Oprah should try and help others. Seems like you're a tad delusional. And obsessive. Thats my opinion. If you don't care for what she is doing, why do you watch her show or pay attention to her at all?




don'tpanic BLOWS... I excel.

[Stubz]

Oprah is a man with a bad sex-change....and s/he is a witch and the devil incarnate

[flours8]

staticexcess,

In aaaallllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll her book club pics there is the same theme.

Analysed by a Christian writer of which I quoted from the article:

"OPrah's misery index, sufferers who save themselves".

It was the writers opinion that ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLlll Oprah's pics for her book club has the same theme running through them.

Which, if you read the article would realize Oprah is sending a message to all who read her books that God is bad.

Also the article's author states reading those books will lead the reader deeper into despair.

That is brainwashing.

And Oprah gets people to accept her repeated theme in all her book clubs pics willingly. Not only does she do that, she gets people to buy the crappy books that will lead the reader deeper in despair so she can step up to the plate as their personal saviour.

Also as far as chakras, Mine are being attacked by these sickos.

So if these sickos know about chakras I will assume they are sometype of new age witches. And if they are attacking me and my family's chakras of which I was told messing with people's chakras is dangerous, these are evil people.

And you don't have to be christian to realize attacking people's chakras is dangerous.

And new age people will do anything for money.

they spread their lies about truths and get people to pay for them willingly.

It is all about making money while drawing people away from Christian beliefs into new age beliefs.

The masons do alot of good too. They play both sides of the fence.

They do good and evil and are proud patriotic people that will pull the cloak of christianity over them when it suits them.

It is interesting those that have followed and harassed me make sure they see I see them waving their little mason ring on their hand.

the masons, witches and satanists, who have people in thier covens and cult groups in prestigious and public positions have a nice little people huntin game going when they want, whenever they want and nobody seems to do anything about it, as they use people to build their business empires.

I t is interesting though, that what is being done to some, it appears is being tried and tested on the population at large in oh so subtle ways only one who has felt their sting can identify. Subtleness. So subtle you don't even notice, till they got control.

[daveytaylor]

I'm confused flours8.

Do you actually like Oprah or not?

[flours8]

staticexcess,

IT is all about new age, witch, masonic, voodoo, wizardry, occult practioners how they use people right out in the open to build their business empires and make their billions and suck out the life of their victims while they offer them up as a sacrifice to satan to put life into their business edeavors.

[flours8]

daveytaylor,

Your kidding right?

I do not like oprah.

She is a fake.

[flours8]

Oprah's whole show is being used to drive people deep into despair with tricks like her book club that have the same theme that runs through all of them, with characters that get mad at God, give up on God, and go it alone.

That article I quoted from made a serious telling observation about the ALL the books Oprah chose for her bookclub,

"Stories of suffering to be honest, must end with one of two truths: the presence of God, or a void where he should be. God appeared to Job, not with answers, but in the overwhelming reality of his creation. Job, still puzzled, still not understanding, placed his hand over his mouth. Not all suffering will end with the epiphany of the whirlwind; not all sufferers will come face to face with the person of God. Those who do, like Job, will bow their heads and admit a riddle that cannot be solved. Those who do not will live in a world without God.

But this godless world isn't filled with sefsufficiency and self-created meaning. Wiesel ends his chilling memoir Night, not with faith in himself, but with a long look in the mirror. "I had not seen myself since the ghett," he writes. "From the depths of the mirror, a corpse gazed back at me. The look in his eyes, as they stared into mind, has never left me. " AND THIS IS WHY THE OPRAH NOVELS ARE ULTIMATELY DISHONEST, OFFERING FALSE CONSOLATION THAT CAN ONLY LEAD TO DEEPER DESPAIR. FOR IN THE END, WITHOUT GOD, THE SUFFERER WILL NOT FIND COMMUNITY, COURAGE, NEWFOUND LOVE, AND GAMBLING PRFOITS. SHE WILL FIND INSTEAD A VOID; NOT SELF-RENEWAL, BUT THE EMPTY EYES OF A CORPSE."

You want to talk about psychology?

OPrah's whole show targets the viewers minds to confuse new age and authentic christian values, targets the mind in subtle ways to make people confused about God and new age paganism, God and herself as goddess (new age), and she has targeted the viewers mind to associate herself and her brand with everything that is good and wholesome and christian when she is anything but wholesome, and christian.

With her whole show she associates herself with something good, to anchor in people's minds she is good, then she goes about and touts new age beliefs. And people then think, "well, she is associated with all that is good, this new age stuff must be good too". And it isn't. It is just garbage.

[flours8]

The best way to destroy the christian religion is for satanists, or masons or witches or new age believers to join a christian church such as the catholic church and influence those in power to make decisions that will be viewed as antichristian.

Or better yet, get a paid spokesman like the Oprah that presents her self as a christian but sets out to confuse authentic christian religions with new age spirituality, while on other psychological fronts attacking the viewers beliefs in God through her book club leading them more into despair so she can make herself available as the be all end all know it all, like Rush Limbaugh. Rush Limbaugh calls him self the all knowing.

[flours8]

interesting similiar power move of Mr. Bush and Miss oprah.

Oprah winfrey has all her employers sign life time gag orders, and the president wanted everyone in the cia to sign forms that stated they will not divulge any information including declassified information.

Very similiar indeed.

Both Mr. Bush and Oprah present themsevles as christians yet tout things that are anything but christian.

Both use psychology to sell their ideas.

They both use communications techniques that have double meanings.

tried and true ways of getting people to give up their votes and beliefs, pocketbooks and lives.

[flours8]

I here scottland is the most unchristian country there is.

IT is like no one believes in God there.

ANd ENgland is well on its way to becoming a Godless country too.

JuSt remember, keep watching tv, let the advertisers and marketers, and corporate media giants keep overstimulating the lizard part of your brain.

Then you can watch oprah and share in her new age beliefs. Especially the goddess part, where she is the goddess.

THen when everyone starts running amuck because there is no God only paganism and do whatever you want new age beliefs where anything goes, when every one is chipped and watched 24/7 with the cameras all over the place becauase everyone is acting like animals, just thank the corparate media and Oprah.

[flours8]

Don't forget to keep on feeding that economy so the rich people can keep making all their money. Yup and the publishers too. Part of the media corporate biggies. Yup. Spend that money on the products OPrah suggests and the books she suggests too.

Oh I bet she is making the patriotic masons very happy by getting people to contribute to the life blood of the USA.

While they buy things willingly that may take more than theyr money, their souls too.

Yeah, go buy one of those opRah pics that will lead your mind more into despair and get you to hate God. Then go buy one of her new age books she touts. While your at it, buy some of the overpriced products she names on her show. Only the best for Queen Oprah.

[staticxess]

Once again you've quoted your sources, where those souces are from other than the writers names? But not any others or any authorities to prove your claims. Religion changes thru time flours, I don't know what kind of christian u are and I don't care. My soul and spirituality is my business. Christians have done plenty to adopt "pagan" ways when christians still judge and condemn us. The pagan religions are much older and christianity was alot for people to accept a millenia ago; (What do you call Christmas and All Saints Day? those were pagan holidays) Thieves. Lucky for people and the general populace people like you don't run things, you're even more brainwashed than half the world is.
I'm so sure the "masons" are following you around flashing their proverbial rings. No offense again but Do you realize how sick you sound like you are? I think you should be discussing this with a licensed therapist.
Hell to the masons is what I say and anyone else who may be "trying" to run the show. I'll play the game so far as to survive, but in no way do those fools have control or power over me.Or anyone who doesn't choose to live their illusion.Even if they killed me today, big whoop I've still got what I came here to do and that is to learn and excuse my language fucking grow as a person.
God's away on business buddy. He's turned a deaf ear to you.
Your God is dead. Satan doesn't exist but as a concept,
you encompass most of what is evil just like most of humankind.
Just like every other legacy before us, their Gods are dead too.Give your power and your energy to focusing on what is positive in the world. The world will be a peaceful place when that happens in entirety for each and everyone of us (I think that was Jesus message in a nutshell).
By the way I don't recall ever reading that Jesus proclaimed he was the son of "God" in fact he always referred to himself as the son of MAN. Hmmm, seems like he wasn't trying to prove the existence of a "God" with his teachings either, seems like he was trying to SELF EMPOWER people. Kinda like what Oprah may be trying to do as well as many other people are trying to do. I don't think Jesus ever claimed that we should try to convert those who don't follow our beliefs as well thats why theres the old testament and the NEW testament.The OLD needed updating for our consciousness and awareness of NEW CONCEPTS. The same applies today indeed!!
It's kind of like an evolutionary thing that I doubt you get at present.
If you can be confident that your energies ie.(chakras, spirit,chi,etc.)
are safe because you empower yourself ie. (energetically,meditatively,willfully) then no one can really harm you.
If u can't get past your negativity and your HATE (which is a non-christian value) then I guess you are all alone with your FALSE hope and faith flours. Good luck with that.

[flours8]

It is the masons and the new age witches that are trying to convert me and my family by force and that is wrong.

They can take their dark evil cloud and go rain on some other family.

And the source from the article from Christianity today is

Susan Wise Bauer

She teaches literature at the College of William and Mary

And new age witches that use people's minds and emotions againsts their victims that do things to harass the victim's so that the victim either has to forgive, correct them or if they fall into their trap do something stupid to get themselves in trouble as we all know witches do things to their victims so when the victim tries to correct the situation it backfires and the victim looks crazy ----------------------- what the witches do to their victim is evil.

As far as people who are in business who tear apart a family for the good of others and to make money that is not Christian.

What reasoning is that?

Destroy and rip apart some for the good of many?

That isn't very Christian like at all.

It is pagan thinking.

[flours8]

What was it again that a Christian told me about the witches and masons?

What won't kill me will make me stronger.

You know, everyone that knows about the harassment of me and my family and is too scared to do anything or just doesn't want to get involved,
They should think about it, because how do they know they won't be the next victims of the occult practioners who use people's authentic need for religion against themselves.

Not only do the satanists destroy some for the good of many and use them as a sacrifice for satan and to put life into their business endeavors,
and spread and force their religious beliefs on people softly, subtlely and not so subtley via the media all forms, they are brainwashing the population.

And I have even read accounts where members of witches and satanist and masons destroy their own family members.

The devil is here to deceive, divide and destroy.

And he is too smart for me. I admit that.
I am just a weak human being.

But God isn't.

[flours8]

There attacks.

They rub the 10 commandments in their victim's faces.

They attack so sneakily you have no choice except to forgive because if the victim doesn't the victim gets angry and sets them sevles up for pride and failure. And the satanists know that.

There is such a thing as satanic wisdom.

I have been told they are waging psychological warfare on me and my family.

Hence my brother in law who was so harassed threw a chair through a wall and was committed.

THey used his mind against himself.

The satanists can only speculate on how a person will react to their harassment. They are not God. They want to be God to their victims but they are not God. There is only one true God. All the rest are false.
They want the victims to break the first commandment. There shall be no other God besides me.

They want to be god so bad they harass and force and abuse the victim till the victim accepts them as god.

Is this Christian?

This is what satanic ritualistic abuse is all about.

But you are right about forgiving them.

[flours8]

And if God is dead and satan doesn't exist, why do the satanists and witches and new age believers make a big stink about the man in the red flannel suit not existing at all? That comes in different forms like tv hosts and programs, or the pretty girl or the good looking guy or even a religious figure?

Why do the masons want to run everything anyway?

Huh?

Who made them god?

Or is it they want to be Gods?

IF satan doesn't exist why do the masons worship the goat goatu?

Gee that is some great religion huh?

They worship an animal deity that is satan.

Wow and satan doesn't exist huh?

[flours8]

And if satan doesn't exist why is there black masses where they put a eucharistic host in a womans vagina and the male satanists have sex with her huh?

Why do they desacrate sacred objects huh?

Jesus is suppose to exist in the eucharist.

Is this what they think of Jesus?

Anything goes with the satanists. Lust, overeating, experiencing allthere is to experience via thebody.

But the body is the temple where the Holy Spirit is suppose to exist. And if it isn't the holy spirit, what spirit exists in the satanists and witches and new age people if they don't believe in that stuff?

Maybe satan himself.

[flours8]

If people want to be pagan and satanists fine. It is not something I think is good because it can open doors to evil in their lives.

But don't harass me and my family because we are catholic. Don't wage war on us. Don't beat your beliefs into us. Don't destroy us. Don't try and make yourselves our God.

Don't fuck with our lives and wage psychological warfare on us because you don't like us.

Not very Christian like.

Don't use us to build your financial billion dollar businesses because we got something you don't have and want to exploit.

[flours8]

The cosiars. The pirates. The ones that steal and fly the skull and crossbones.

Who the hell are they that they think it their right to harass me and my family?

[daveytaylor]

I do not like oprah.

She is a fake.

Thanks for clearing that up. It's just I've read 6 pages and feel that you need to express yourself about Oprah more clearly because you do seem to be sitting on the fence.

[staticxess]

HAHA sitting on the fence? Hilarious dude! I love your sarcasm.
Obviously flours takes all this just a tad too seriously.
Have you taken a vacation lately flours?Perhaps that is what the real PROBLEM is. You need a break. By golly you're working yourself up in a frenzy making yourself susceptible to the very forces you say you are fighting. Seems like you don't really understand what you are fighting.
So Susan Bauer teaches at the College of William and Mary. Wow, impressive, she must have an undergraduate degree from some community college in the study of Demonology right or is she a veritable and verifiable Theologian? Sounds like you don't understand New Age or Paganism as you seem to confuse the two. But then again it's all the same to most diehard bible thumping holy roller Christians.if we aren't one them then we're "evil and one of those people". Religious fanactics seem like they are the ones brainwashing others and waging psychological warfare on others. And if Satanists do exist on the level you speak, what an oxymoron! they denounce a God they don't worship to worship the antithesis of that Diety's meaning. HA that's laughable! I am so scared of idiots and geeks in black robes speaking psycho babble and shoving crosses up their orifaces. Good luck with that freaks. Please I am so NOT scared! They sure seem to scare you. Get over it. Buy a nitelite. Throw some salt over your shoulder say 10 hail mary's.
Maybe they all came from Scotland? Bullsheit. Lemme tell you somethin.
None of this has any meaning unless you place meaning upon it, which you have. Now you've got the freaking Masons after you, the Rosicrucians I am sure will follow, how about some Nazi's too?Hey while your at it you might as well believe little green men are following you around too, God knows how evil those Aliens are even tho God probably created them too if they exist. Who's waging the wars? THE Judeo Christian and Muslim freaks. They seem to be the ones who beat, kill, harass, force and hate everyone else. Don't buy the lie that you seem to have subscribed to.I am just trying to survive and not hurt anyone else and learn along the way to my spiritual freedom. Pick your battles flours not go out looking for them. Seems like you're trying to play the helpless victim here. Classic. Most christians just blame Satan for everything wrong they do or experience. Then cover it up with guilt and continue the cycle of pointing their fingers at others and never accepting responsibility for their actions or judgments upon others. Did you ever stop to think that humans are the real evil in the world NOT Satan (some moron in a red suit blah blah blah whatever "LABEL" you need to humanize your enemies with).
So what did you do to make you feel so guilty that now you've devoted your whole being to your God? Even tho you devote alot of time to the internet, hmm, I know alot of religions consider an attachment to modern technology as being evil.
If you can't stand living in the world where you are, join a convent, or a commune or a relgious cult, become a quaker or become a priest and do something you believe in towards your beliefs and goals and QUIT YER BITCHIN'. I'm moving on now. Good luck.

[flours8]

copyright 1998 by the author or Christianity Today international/Christianity Today magazine. For reprint information on "OPrah's Misery Index call 630 260 6200 or e-mail cteditor@christianity today.com

December 7, 1998 Vol. 42, No. 14, Page 70

If you go on the internet to find the article you have to pay a fee for access to it. It is like $8.00 a month. You would find it at the library though.

Susan Wise Bauer is the author of two novels: The Revolt (Word) and Though the Darkness Hide Thee (mulnomah). She teaches literature at the College of William and Mary.

It is interesting to note this article was written in 1998.

Oprah's pics still have the same theme running through all of them at this time in 2004.

[flours8]

"Maybe some nazis too".

You know it is interesting you say that staticexcess because one of the theories for this type of harassment is the nazis who came over from Germany after world war two came looking for the survivors and set about using them for their businesses because of the slave genes the family has in them from being in a work camp. I cannot believe this theory because there are many people on the internet that have written similiar accounts and have no history of anyone in their family being in a slave camp in world war 2.

My father was in a work camp and recently I have found out in some ?experiment with gas in a shower. Although I don't think it is the nazis
I feel when scouting for victims and came upon us the satanists who know psychology and how to use it against their victims all to well did their little psychological assessment and felt they hit the jackpot.

A father in a work camp fearful of authority figures, and masonic police harassing us, see how they attack the weak? Perfect match don't you think?

The satanic masonic policemen think so.

Their weapons beside high tech cooking devices, is fear and the victims mind. And even the person good naturedness they use against themselves.

They are nasty and evil people who have no respect for life only money and prestigue.

This is the satanists, masonic way of making money - using people as slaves and slowly destroying them. Sucking the life out of them.

They go after the weak, not the strong.

Doesn't say much for them at all.

What kind of person goes after weak people?

The big bad masonic satanists aint so big and bad if they haveto go after weak people and steal from them and steal their enjoyment of life and their peace and slowly kill them.

This is the choice of business and sport of the satanic masons.

They have to go after girls and their fearful father. Awe. Big bad satanists. Too weak to go after the big boys that can like defend themselves.